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P2 Theories of real addition with and without a predicate for integers

实数加法理论:带整数谓词与不带整数谓词
LMCS vol.Volume 17, Issue 22021匹配度 1/10 · 该论文属于数理逻辑/模型论中实数加法与整数谓词的可定义性研究,与用户关注的 PL/AI、静态分析、LLM/Agent、浮点程序分析或贝叶斯程序分析没有直接关联;仅可能作为实数算术判定理论的背景,但无工程、工具或 benchmark 内容。引用 5 inbox
Alexis Bès, Christian Choffrut
crossref: 2026-09-10

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一句话:证明实数加法结构中有无整数谓词的可定义性可判定,并给出拓扑刻画与无中间结构结果。

本文研究实数加法结构 ⟨R,+,<,Z⟩ 与 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩ 的可定义性关系:判定前者中可定义的关系能否在后者中定义。作者在两类可定义关系族中给出 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩-可定义关系的拓扑刻画,并采用 Muchnik 方法证明该刻画可在 ⟨R,+,<,1,X⟩ 的逻辑中表达。由此得到可判定性,并证明两个结构之间不存在中间结构。此外,他们证明一个 ⟨R,+,<,Z⟩-可定义关系是 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩-可定义的当且仅当它与每条 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩-可定义直线的交集都是 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩-可定义的,从而给出非有效但简单的刻画。

问题
判定 ⟨R,+,<,Z⟩ 中可定义的关系何时能在 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩ 中定义,并刻画两类可定义性之间的关系。
方法
对 ⟨R,+,<,1⟩-可定义关系在 ⟨R,+,<,Z⟩-可定义关系族中作拓扑刻画,并借助 Muchnik 方法将该刻画在扩展逻辑中表达。
评估
证明该判定问题是可判定的;进一步证明两个结构之间无中间结构,并给出基于与可定义直线交集的非有效但简单的刻画。
原文摘要(Abstract)

We show that it is decidable whether or not a relation on the reals definable in the structure $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, \mathbb{Z} \rangle$ can be defined in the structure $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$. This result is achieved by obtaining a topological characterization of $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$-definable relations in the family of $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, \mathbb{Z} \rangle$-definable relations and then by following Muchnik's approach of showing that the characterization of the relation $X$ can be expressed in the logic of $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;,1, X \rangle$. The above characterization allows us to prove that there is no intermediate structure between $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, \mathbb{Z} \rangle$ and $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$. We also show that a $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, \mathbb{Z} \rangle$-definable relation is $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$-definable if and only if its intersection with every $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$-definable line is $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$-definable. This gives a noneffective but simple characterization of $\langle \mathbb{R}, +,&lt;, 1 \rangle$-definable relations.

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@article{paperbot1310,
  title = {Theories of real addition with and without a predicate for integers},
  author = {Alexis Bès and Christian Choffrut},
  journal = {Logical Methods in Computer Science},
  volume = {Volume 17, Issue 2},
  year = {2021},
  doi = {10.23638/lmcs-17(2:18)2021}
}